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		<title>The Quest to watch Hulu on TV with an HD DVR</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[DVR]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world needs a comprehensive internet connected set-top box. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">The world needs a comprehensive internet connected set-top box. There is no existing solution that allows you to:</p>
<ul>
<li>Watch Hulu, YouTube, and other streaming internet videos on your TV</li>
<li>Record broadcast TV in a portable format (an HD DVR).</li>
<li>Download (via Bit torrent or Usenet) and view downloaded videos in portable formats (DivX, Xvid, other MPEG-4 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_codec">variants</a>)</li>
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<p>After a couple days research, it looks like the best way to accomplish this is by using a Mac or PC with a TV tuner as a home video server. In my case, I already have a MediaCenter PC, but it isn&#8217;t in the TV room, so I&#8217;ve researched the best option for sharing videos over my home network. The result is the system diagrammed below. I haven&#8217;t actually set up the UPnP part of the network yet, but I will likely use iPodifier and PlayOn to transmit shows to a PS3 (which, though expensive, is also a blue-ray player). I am willing to hack a little bit, but am hesitant to embark on a major hacking expedition (doing stuff over SSH to an AppleTV, or installing MythTV to see if it supports my video card both sound like too much work).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" title="Home Media Network" src="http://photos-350.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v351/205/89/620375350/n620375350_1803773_5896.jpg" alt="" width="578" height="604" /></p>
<p>I prefer to pay for <a href="http://www.qwest.com/">high speed internet</a> rather than cable/satellite TV. For some reason, I can&#8217;t stomach a <a href="http://www.comcast.com/">monthly subscription for TV</a>. $50-100/month = $600-1200/yr (although I do have ultra-basic cable because our TV reception is poor). A basic HD <a href="http://www.tivo.com/">TiVo</a>, the leading choice for a stand-alone DVR, is $299 without programming, $700 with lifetime service. This is too expensive, and still only solves 1 of the 3 criteria above.</p>
<p>On demand download services are more palatable, the leaders are:</p>
<ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.vudu.com/">Vudu</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://www.roku.com/netflixplayer/">Netflix Roku</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://www.apple.com/appletv/">AppleTV</a></li>
</ul>
<p>But with all of these, you pay for a limited selection of old TV shows and movies. Rather than dropping $600 on a year of cable television, that money will go a long way towards a <a href="http://www.apple.com/macmini/">Mac Mini</a> with <a href="http://www.elgato.com/elgato/na/mainmenu/home.en.html">EyeTV</a> or a <a href="http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&amp;cs=19&amp;l=en&amp;oc=DDCWLA2&amp;s=dhs">MediaCenter PC</a>. Once you have either of those as a hub, it is easier to free up your content for viewing on other devices around the house.</p>
<p>Here is what I&#8217;ve found to be the leading software you can install on your Mac/PC DVR to share video around the house:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=playon&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a">PlayOn</a> (UPnP server for PC)  &#8211; launched a beta version recently and <a href="http://www.themediamall.com/playon">their site</a> went down</li>
<li><a href="http://ipodifier.com/">iPodifier</a> (file converter for PC) to automatically convert your Windows MediaCenter format files to iPod or AppleTV friendly format (MPG-4)</li>
<li><a href="http://mediatomb.cc/">MediaTomb</a> (UPnP server for Mac/Linux)</li>
</ul>
<p>These are very promising because they don&#8217;t require a lot of hacking (although MediaTomb doesn&#8217;t seem have any installation instructions)</p>
<p>UPnP Clients</p>
<ul>
<li>PlayStation3 &#8211; should work with PlayOn and has a blue-ray drive.</li>
<li>XBox 360 &#8211; should work with PlayOn or PC MediaCenter (though I had bad experiences with first gen Xbox)</li>
<li>not AppleTV (requires hacking) &#8211; but should detect MPG-4 videos encoded by iPodifier</li>
</ul>
<p>Other Links</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.paulcolligan.com/2008/09/01/hulu-on-the-xbox-heres-how/">Demo of Hulu on Xbox (using PlayOn)</a></li>
<li>Hacking AppleTV for uPNP http://users.telenet.be/bruno.keymolen/hmedia.html (UPNP for AppleTV)</li>
<li>An <a href="http://reviews.cnet.com/portable-video-players-pvps/archos-5-60gb/4505-6499_7-33226902.html?tag=api&amp;subj=re">Archos DVR</a> with support for UPnP (No Hulu, Pandora or last.fm due to poor support for flash)</li>
<li><a href="http://code.google.com/p/atvusb-creator/">More AppleTV hacking stuff </a></li>
<li><a href="http://boxee.tv">Boxee</a> (TV like interface for internet video on Mac based on <a href="http://xbmc.org/">XBMC</a>)</li>
<li>Myka, a <a href="http://www.myka.tv/index.html?banner=torrentfreakS1">bit torrent-enabled set top box</a> (that isn&#8217;t shipping yet)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.orb.com/">Orb</a> &#8211; stream software from your PC over the internet to anywhere</li>
<li>A <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/digital-conversion/a956/?cpg=ab">USB VCR</a> (as in tape). Want to get <a href="http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&amp;_trksid=m38.l1313&amp;_nkw=ion+usb+vcr&amp;_sacat=See-All-Categories">one of these</a> to make DVDs of old family videos.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.mythtv.org/">MythTV</a> &#8211; linux DVR/media server software.</li>
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